The Stinson 108 Voyager http://personalpages.tdstelme.net/~westin Larry Westin - 1/17/96 UPDATED - REV E - 01/06/07 As World War II entered its final stages, Stinson decided to use the pre-war model 10 Voyager as the starting point for its first post war airplane. Converting a company owned model 10A Voyager, the first prototype Stinson model Voyager 125 was built in late 1944. Initially this was still a three seater powered by a Lycoming 125 HP engine and known as the Voyager 125. First flight of the postwar Voyager was December 1, 1944. The first prototype (of two) was registered NX31519. First configuration of this airplane shows it with a tail, both vertical and horizontal, similar to the model 10A Voyager. Stinson's new post war aircraft was first named the Voyager 125. It was almost 2 feet longer, 250 pounds heavier and had 35 more horse power than the pre war Voyager. The pre war Voyager 10 was slightly under powered and the additional power was thought adequate to correct this deficiency. Flight tests showed a disappointing performance and the decision was made to use a higher powered engine. Substituting a 150 HP Franklin 6A4-150-B4 created the Voyager 150. The added powered allowed Stinson to make some additional changes by increasing the cabin width, lengthening the fuselage about a foot, and increasing gross weight another 285 pounds, to 2150 pounds. These changes not only improved performance, but it also made the Voyager into a 4 place airplane. Reviewing the available documentation I am unable to determine if these changes occurred with the first or second prototype. The second prototype, registered NX51532, was also a converted model 10A Voyager owned by Stinson. Interestingly these airplanes were assigned serial numbers 1 and 2 respectively. After only a short period they were reduced to scrap. Apparently the first two production airplanes then used serial number 1 and 2. Rather unusual so I list NX31519 and NX31532 as prototypes. Sometime in this period the original model 10A Voyager wooden tail was replaced by a new all metal tail. The new all metal tail included both redesigned vertical and horizontal stabilizers of different shape. Also the horizontal stabilizer was relocated much higher as compared to the model 10A. Stinson showed the Voyager 150 at the San Diego Air Show in November 1945. Production began in January 1946 and approved type certificate A-767 is widely reported as being granted on 7/19/46. This date seems unlikely to me because Stinson was in full production of the model 108 since early January 1946. There were in fact more than 200 built before July 1946. At this time, the early 1946, the Stinson Voyager pretty much had the 4 place market to itself. Most general aviation manufactures were building 2 place aircraft. Cessna was building the models 120 and 140, Piper the J-3 and PA-12, Aeronca the 7AC, Taylorcraft the BC-12 and other manufactures were concentrating on two place training aircraft. Beech and North American were not yet ready with the Bonanza and Navion, which, with retractable landing gear, were a step above the Stinson 150. Voyager sales were brisk in the immediate post war period. There was something of an identity problem with the name Voyager 150, which did not seem to catch on. Model 108 is the official designation but the popular name is Voyager. Unlike the 2 place aircraft, which are basically training airplanes, the Voyager is a cross country airplane. The larger size, adequate fuel load, and optional full instrumentation, made the Stinson Voyager a popular business airplane. Two gross weights are specified for the model 108, 2150 pounds in the normal category, and 1900 pounds in utility category. The model 108 was also licensed with Edo pontoons and as a seaplane a gross weight of 2235 pounds is permitted, normal category only. Stinson built 741 model 108 Voyagers, serial numbers 108-1 through 108-742. Serial number 11 (108-11) is listed as a model 108-1, and I believe serial number 11 was the prototype 108-1. Late 1946 saw the introduction of an improved model, the 108-1, first shown at the National Aircraft Show in Cleveland. Major changes included an increase in gross weight to 2230 pounds normal, and 1925 in the utility category. Seaplane gross weight remained at 2235 pounds. Power remained the same Franklin 6A4- 150-B4 engine of 150 HP. Two models of the 108-1 were offered, the Voyager and the Station Wagon. Station Wagon models have a strengthened rear floor with plywood siding in the rear. The strengthened rear floor provided extra utility which allowed up to 600 pounds of cargo. Model 108-1 production totaled 1506 aircraft. Serial numbers are 108-743 through 108-2249, minus 108-1474. Apparently 108-1474 became the prototype for the model 108-2. Serial number 108-3100 is also listed on the type certificate as a model 108-1 but it was not built by Stinson as a 108-1. Serial number 108-3100 was originally built as a 108-2. About two years after it was manufactured an engine problem occurred and the 108- 2 Franklin 165HP engine was replaced with a 108-1 Franklin 150HP engine. This change required FAA (then CAA) field approval, and apparently the FAA decided to redefine the airplane as a 108-1. As of this writing the airplane data plate lists it as a 108-2 and the bungee required of the 108-2 is still installed. One airplane from the 108-1 production line, serial number 108- 1563, was used to test many new configurations. These included a new single strut wing, different engines and propellers and a new tail. Most of the features would not be used in production, the new tail however would emerge on production airplanes with the model 108-3. This airplane was converted back to a standard model 108-1 before delivery. Later in 1947 Stinson brought out the model 108-2. Also new was a baggage compartment with an external door on the right side of the fuselage. Gross weight remained the same. Model 108-2 production totaled 1252 aircraft. Serial numbers are 108-2250 through 108-3500, plus 108-1474 which I believe is the prototype. Major difference of the model 108-2 was increased power, now the Franklin 6A4-165-B3 of 165 HP. The additional power with the same size vertical stabilizer and rudder made a bungee necessary. Gross weight remained 2230 normal and 1925 utility, same as the 108-1. During July 1947 two Stinson 108-2's, Station Wagon models, NC9381K and NC9382K, serial numbers 108-2381 and 108-2383 respectively, where flown by the U.S. Army at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. In the Stinson 108 production records these are listed as "Army Demonstrators." The Stinson 108-2 took best off the shelf airplane available. I'm unaware of any US military designation or serial number assigned to either of these airplanes. NC9381K remains on the FAA register, and I believe NC9382K still exists in Alaska, but is unregistered. This is the only U.S. military use of the Stinson 108 I'm aware of. Major changes improved the Stinson with the model 108-3, the 1948 model. Most obvious was a completely re-engineered vertical stabilizer and rudder. While earlier versions have a ground adjustable rudder trim tab, the 108-3 incorporated a cockpit adjustable rudder trim tab. "Big tailed Stinson" is the term which refers to the model 108-3. Engine remained the Franklin 6A4-165-B3, as used in the 108-2. Gross weight increased to 2400 pounds normal, 2000 pounds utility. Door latches changed to flush type. About this time the U.S. aviation industry was experiencing a massive down turn in sales. Stinson's were being built much faster than they were being sold. Late 1948 saw several hundred unsold Stinson's and parent company Consolidated Vultee decided on a change. In what was an industry surprise, Consolidated Vultee sold the assets of the Stinson Division to Piper aircraft on Nov. 29, 1948. The last Stinson Voyager built at the Wayne, Michigan plant was serial number 108-5260, and this aircraft when Piper was owner. Serial numbers for 108-3's are from 108-3501 to 108-5260. Published material indicates that Piper sold some 325 Stinson aircraft. Approximately 125 aircraft were assembled by Piper at Wayne, Michigan from parts included in the sale. One source indicates that the dies for the vertical stabilizer and rudder were scrapped and the last 108-3 aircraft built used the earlier small tails, similar to those used on the 108 through 108-2. I believe the dies probably were scrapped, however I doubt small tails were actually installed on the 108-3. My own airplane, a model 108-3 serial number 108-4968, nominally falls into the published group which should have had the small tail. It does not, the tail is standard model 108-3. Two Homepage viewers with even later serial numbers than mine indicate their airplanes have the big 108-3 tail. Piper sold Stinson's through early 1950. The standard 108-3 paint scheme was used with a slight modification. The name on the cowl was changed from Stinson Voyager to Piper Voyager or Piper Flying Station Wagon. Researching the light general aviation Stinson's revealed a model 108-4. Very little information is available on the 108-4, however it is known only a single example was built, serial number 108-3149, registration NX149C. It was the last 108 model developed by Stinson. It was flown by both Stinson, and later Piper, but never progressed through to the type certificate. At one time I believed that serial number 108-1563, NX8563K, described earlier, the aircraft flown for awhile with a single lift strut, is the model 108-4. That is NOT the correct. So if you have earlier information from me, this page now corrects my earlier error. Sherman Oxford, a homepage viewer, sent me a Stinson drawing labeled as the 108-4. This drawing showed only the entry door. Unusual about this is the door is shown with what appears to be an aluminum brace through the entry door window. Guessing I would say this would be a "wind wing" type window as used in cars of the period. I have never seen a photo of such a door on a Stinson. Piper purchased the Stinson aircraft primarily to remove competition with its own Pacer. Although Piper did fly the 108- 4, No further development was undertaken by Piper of the model 108. A June 15, 1955 Piper Service Letter announced the sale of the approved type certificate, manufacturing rights, engineering data and spare parts for the Stinson 108, 108-1, 108-2, 108-3 and the L5. Piper made the sale to Vest Aircraft Company, Sky Ranch Airport, Denver, Colorado. Univair Aircraft in Aurora, Colorado is the current owner of the Stinson 108 series type certificate. I do not know how the ownership changed from Vest Aircraft to Univair. Sky Ranch is, I believe, now defunct except for possibly some hangers. It may be that Univair's current building is located adjacent to what was Sky Ranch airport. Final model to date, is the 108-5. Univair is responsible for the 108-5 and it is essentially a 108-3 with a Franklin 6A4-335- B1 engine. Type certificate A-767 lists the serial numbers of the model 108-5 as 108-3501 and above, which is identical to the 108-3. Janes All The Worlds Aircraft, 1976-1977, page 397, says a prototype and 17 production versions were completed by 1 March 1976. Shown is a photograph of a 108-5, N5576V, however it is not listed on the current register. Structurally the Stinson uses 4130 welded chrome molly steel for the fuselage. All models are essentially the same with some changes for the added weight of later models. Most of the fuselage is covered with fabric, with aluminum covering the fuselage forward of the cabin doors. A strong carry through structure, essentially under the front seats, provides points for the lift struts and landing gear to attach to. Wings use front and rear aluminum spars with stamped aluminum ribs. Airfoil is NACA 4412. Each wing root has a fuel tank. Models 108, 108-1 and 108-2 have 20 gallon tanks. Model 108-3 and 108-4 have two 25 gallon tanks, with 23 usable. Each wing is attached to the top of the fuselage with two bolts, one for each wing spar. Front and rear lift struts support each wing. The lower end of the front lift strut connects to the lower forward fuselage carry through, just behind the main landing gear rear attach point, and the upper end to the front spar. The lower end of the rear left strut connects to the lower end of the front lift strut, and the upper end of the rear lift strut connects to the rear spar. Two landing lights are installed in the left wing, as is the pitot tube. All Stinsons were delivered with radio as standard. Model 108's were equipped with the General Electric AS-1B transmitter receiver. This radio can transmit on one frequency, originally 3105 KHz. Sometime in the late 1940's or early 1950's the FCC changed the standard light aircraft transmitter frequency to 3023.5 KHz. All Stinson's I have seen, which still had the LF radio, had the later 3023.5 KHz crystal installed. The AS-1B has a two band, tunable receiver, covering the 190 to 400 KHz aircraft band, and the 550 to 1600 KHz broadcast band. Stinson models 108-1, 108-2 and 108-3's had the Hallicrafters CA- 2 Skyfone radio installed as standard. The Hallicrafters also had a single frequency, 3023.5 Kha LF transmitter and a two band tunable receiver. Two antennas were installed as standard on all Stinsons, a long wire antenna for transmitting and receiving, and an unique directional antenna. Models 108, 108-1 and 108-2 had the transmitter receiver antenna from the top of the cabin to the tip of the tail. Model 108-3 had the antenna from the top of the cabin to the tip of the tail with additional long wire elements to each wing tip. The antenna elements from the tail to the wing tips had quick detachments at each wing tip to ease storage. Transmitting at 3 MHz (either 3105 or 3023.5KHz) required a loading coil located near the top of the cabin in the forward insulator. During the production period of the Stinson 108, radio navigation consisted primarily of four course ranges. Both the General Electric and Hallicrafters were capable of receiving the four course range signals, which were transmitted in the 190 to 400 KHz range. The antenna configuration used to create the four course range made them unusable for direction finding. Instead of watching a needle or other display as is done today, the four course range was tracked by listening carefully to the radio receiver. On course the pilot heard a steady tone, off course the pilot heard either the morse code for the letter "A" ( . - ) or the morse code for the letter "N" ( - . ). Stinson also installed a unique manual directional antenna which consisted of a loop of wire inside the fuselage. Both radios had a selector for which antenna the receiver used, either long wire or loop. Manual direction finding does not use an indicator in the instrument panel, rather manual directional capability comes from listening to the strength of the signal. Most directional antennas of the period were heavy loops on the fuselage with a mechanical means inside the cockpit to rotate the antenna. After tuning in the station on the long wire, the directional antenna is selected and rotated until the lowest signal (null) is heard. This would then give the pilot the angle difference between his heading the direction to the station. Since the Stinson had only a fixed loop antenna as standard the entire airplane had to be turned to determine the null heading. Once the null was determined the airplane was heading to or from the station. Rather a far cry from today's VOR/DME, LORAN C or GPS systems. Interestingly, when I completely restored my own Stinson 108-3 beginning in 1984, the fixed loop directional antenna was still in the aircraft although the LF radio had been removed many years before. Both of the standard radio's were quite narrow. When I restored my airplane I installed modern Narco solid state avionics. Since today's radio's are wider the radios had to be angled to allow for full control movement for the elevators. Stinson's were available with three different instrument panels, the standard, basic blind flying and advanced blind flying. The standard panel provided for three standard size (3 1/8 inch) instruments, airspeed, altimeter and tachometer, plus five small size (2 1/4 inch) instruments, oil pressure, oil temperature, fuel, ammeter and compass. The basic blind flying panel had all the standard instruments plus to standard size instruments, the turn and bank and the rate of climb. Also added was one more small size instrument, a clock. The advanced blind flying panel included all the instruments in basic blind flying panel plus two WWII standard size instruments, an artificial horizon and a directional gyro. Sales literature for the Stinson Voyager often mentioned the terrific sound proofing installed as standard. A cabin loudspeaker was installed, which was very unusual for a light aircraft in 1946. Fiberglass sound proofing was installed above the entire cabin during production. Personally I believe the sales claims rather optimistic. I use, and recommend, either head phones or a headset. My airplane does not have the thick fiberglass shield as originally installed, but a smaller foam material. As delivered from Stinson the airplane is covered with Grade A cotton fabric with 8 coats of dope. Today most have a synthetic fabric, either Stits or Ceconite. Several STC's are available to metalize the airplane. Interior of the first airplanes was a grey wool mohair fabric with a vinyl insert. Cushioning was from horse hair dipped in formaldehyde. Later models, particularly the Station Wagon, may have used an all vinyl interior. Flight characteristics are excellent, The Stinson 108 is a very stable airplane in the air. Landings are not difficult compared with other conventional gear airplanes. Pilot's whose only experience is with tri-cycle gear ("training wheel") aircraft may not completely agree with that statement. The large air oil struts make wheel landings easy, much easier than a Cessna 140 or Citabria with the spring steel landing gear. Stalls are light, the wing slots provide very good lateral control at low speed. Published speeds seem a bit optimistic to me. During cruise I true about 118 to 122 mph depending on altitude and temperature, at 2500 RPM. A recent flight which was on a cooler day, at 2550 RPM, N6968M was truing a respectable 128 mph! My airplane has 8 external antenna's, 7 more than standard, however I do not think the large number of antenna's detract that much from speed. Number of Stinson 108 Prototypes Built Total Model Serial Numbers Built Remarks ----- -------------- ----- ------------------- 108 108-1 & 108-2 (2) Two model 108 prototypes (converted model 10A airplanes). Number of New Production Stinson 108's built ----- -------------------------- ---- --------------- 108 108-1 thru 108-742 741 150 hp Franklin minus 108-11 108-1 108-743 thru 108-2249 1507 150 hp Franklin plus 108-11, minus 108-1474 108-2 108-2250 thru 108-3500 1252 165 hp Franklin plus 108-1474 108-3 108-3501 thru 108-5260 1759 165 hp Franklin minus 108-4693 108-4 108-4693 see note below 1 190 hp Lycoming Total model 108's built by Stinson 5260 NOTE - I list serial number 108-3100 here as a 108-2, which is what Stinson built it as, and what the data plate says. Shortly into its life a problem with the original engine caused the owner to install a 150 HP Franklin. The then CAA decided that change really made the airplane a 108-1. So on the Type Certificate Data Sheet 108-3100 is shown as a 108-1. Stinson model 108 Main Differences Wing Tail Horse Gross Fuel Year Model Length Span Height Power Weight Quantity ---- ----- ------ ------- ------ ----- ------ -------- 1946 108 24' 6" 33' 11" 6' 6" 150 2150 40 1947 108-1 24' 6" 33' 11" 6' 6" 150 2230 40 1947 108-2 24' 6" 33' 11" 6' 6" 165 2230 40 1948 108-3 25' 2" 33' 11" 7' 6" 165 2400 50 Factory Factory Maximum Empty Useful Gross Year Model Weight Load Weight ---- ----- ------ ---- ------ 1946 108 1206 944 2150 1947 108-1 1224 1006 2230 1947 108-2 1265 965 2230 1948 108-3 1320 1080 2400 Stinsons with 150 Hp used the Franklin 6A4-150-B4 engine, Stinsons with 165 Hp used the Franklin 6A4-165-B3 engine. These Dimensions identical for all Stinson model 108's Horizontal surfaces 11' 2" Ailerons 7' 6" Flaps 6' 8" Slots 3' 2" Wing Cord 4' 9" Stinson model 108 Areas Wing Area (Total) 155.00 Each Aileron 9.01 Each Flap 6.11 Horizontal Stabilizer 14.66 Elevator including trim tab 17.24 Elevator trim tab 0.94 Fin (108, -1 and -2) 8.55 Fin (108-3 include tab) 14.28 Rudder (model 108, -1 and -2) 6.28 Rudder (108-3 include tab) 6.78 Rudder Trim Tab 108-3 only 0.49 Stinson model 108 Performance Looking through various "official" documents provided details on stall speed, rate of climb, take off and landing distance. Maximum and cruise speeds are NOT defined in any "official" documentation I can locate. The word official here means I have checked the C.A.A. approved airplane flight manual, owners manual and type certificate sheets. The airplane charts show many different values depending on temperature and altitude. Listed below are reasonable performance for a Stinson 108-3 with the Franklin 165 Hp engine, a McCauley 1A170-7654 metal propeller, on a day which the temperature is 75 degrees Fahrenheit at sea level. Stall speed, flaps up 65 mph Stall speed, flaps down 62 mph Takeoff distance at sea level, 75F 2,383 feet Rate of Climb at sea level, 75F 675 fpm Landing distance at sea level, 75F 1,955 feet Maximum speed 133 mph Cruise speed 128 mph Fuel consumption at 2550 RPM at 7,500 10 gph Endurance, 46 gallons usable fuel 4.5 hours Range with reserves approximately 450 miles This is where I am as of today. More material and information will be added as time and energy permit. If you have additional data and or information please send it to me, my address is below. Have fun, and fly safe, with your Stinson! Postal Address E-Mail Larry Westin Larry Westin 233 Pratt Road westin@tdstelme.net Newport, Maine 04953